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TWTS: Where we're at right now with "where's it at"

We love it when people send us grammar jokes. One that is passed around quite a bit has to do with the construction "where's it at."

Listen to the conversation.

There are a few different versions of this joke, but it usually involves a visitor on an Ivy League campus. The visitor stops a student and asks, "Excuse me, can you tell me where the library is at?"

The student responds, "At Harvard, we do not end our sentences with a preposition." So the visitor says, "Excuse me, can you tell me where the library is at, jerk?"

This is where the rimshot would be at.

The joke indicates that what people are bothered by is the preposition at the end of the sentence. However, it could also be possible that they're responding to the redundancy, which is that "where" is already asking for location.

That is, you could just say, "Excuse me, where's the library?"

This construction, with "at" at the end, has been condemned over the years as uneducated and otherwise wrong. It does feel informal, but this construction is a little more complicated than it appears. There are situations when we actually need that "at," because it sounds weird without it.

For example, you might say, "Yes, that's where we are." Fine, but in speech we often use contractions. In this case, "we are" becomes "we're," so you'd say, "Yes, that's where we're."

It sounds like something is missing, right? Perhaps "Yes, that's where we're at" sounds better?

This particular construction shows up in speech that is more formal. Linguist Mark Liberman cites several examples on his language blog, including this 2012 example from NPR's Talk of the Nation:

"Before the U.S. can even begin negotiations with the Chinese on that, they want to be very clear of what he wants and see what they can do at this point. And that's where we're at right now, this very fluid and precarious situation."

We’re pretty sure that for most folks, that one would’ve probably slipped under the radar. Do you notice when people use this construction?

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Rebecca Kruth is a reporter interning with Aspen Public Radio over the summer of 2013. Originally from Eaton Rapids, Michigan, Rebecca is thrilled to be spending her summer making radio in the mountains. Though she's always been a public radio fan, Rebecca explored several other career paths including teaching high school English before making her way to the airwaves. During her graduate studies at Michigan State University, Rebecca decided radio was where she needed to be and squeezed some journalism courses into her American Studies degree program. After graduation, she snagged internships on the news desk at WKAR, East Lansing and the arts and culture desk at WBEZ, Chicago. When she's not chasing stories, Rebecca enjoys cycling, photography, listening to This American Life and wandering around the country with her husband, James.
Rebecca Kruth
Rebecca Kruth is the host of Weekend Edition and a reporter at Michigan Radio. She first came to the station in 2014 as a Morning Edition intern. After earning degrees in English and American Studies from Michigan State University, Rebecca began her radio career as a newsroom intern at WKAR in East Lansing. She completed additional news internships at WBEZ Chicago and KAJX Aspen. When she’s not on the airwaves, Rebecca enjoys hiking, Korean food and wandering the country with her husband James. She's also Bruce Springsteen's number one fan.
Anne Curzan is the Geneva Smitherman Collegiate Professor of English and an Arthur F. Thurnau Professor at the University of Michigan. She also holds faculty appointments in the Department of Linguistics and the School of Education.